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10:37 p.m.
actually
10:37 p.m.
maybe it came from either unknow goddess or he travelled the same way we did with paimon and gain all power
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I don't think it came from Asmoday, feels like she hates humans 👀 Maybe it came with the curse of immortality?
10:53 p.m.
Uh, I'm gonna go sleep now 👀 goodnight!
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nyph
Uh, I'm gonna go sleep now 👀 goodnight!
good nighttt
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I have to say, Aponia is looking more and more like she's connected to Genshin. The entire point of Genshin's story is fighting against fate, which Aponia can either read or control. I don't know exactly since I'm only half way through the story bit, but they seem to be hinting at the very least.
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♡ Daoko ♡ 2022-04-23 12:21 p.m.
A lot of the general consensus I've seen around youtube and reddit also think the same
12:22 p.m.
Not 100% sure on how but most are pretty sure she's strongly connected to genshins bubble universe
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Now thinking about it that Vill-V and Primordial God theory is a lot more likely with Griseo instead
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♡ Daoko ♡
A lot of the general consensus I've seen around youtube and reddit also think the same
I have heard otherwise
12:40 p.m.
Wait Daoko are you talking about the Welkin Moon thing
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♡ Daoko ♡ 2022-04-23 12:45 p.m.
No just general thumbnails and things I see accross reddit ans youtube
12:45 p.m.
I dont click into them very much but I see a lot of like "New honkai character related to genshins universe!"
12:45 p.m.
And it has pictures of aponia and stuff
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most of them are just overreacting to the welkin moon thing lol
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Kyurei
most of them are just overreacting to the welkin moon thing lol
That’s what I was thinking
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♡ Daoko ♡ 2022-04-23 12:46 p.m.
Seems late to be related to the welkin stuff cuz I saw all those thumbnails like weeks ago but the newer videos are from like
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if anything else, project ark is more of a tie-in to genshin
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♡ Daoko ♡ 2022-04-23 12:46 p.m.
A couple days ago
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I had a theory about Vill-V’s relation to Genshin but Griseo fits it a lot more
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griseo's fate seems real sad if she was the only one sent for project ark
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Kyurei
griseo's fate seems real sad if she was the only one sent for project ark
Yep maybe even worse if my theory turns out correct (edited)
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Vill-V might still be the Primordial One, if she could figure out how to split herself into different bodies. Because that's the one thing that we're still missing really.
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Hyshadow
Vill-V might still be the Primordial One, if she could figure out how to split herself into different bodies. Because that's the one thing that we're still missing really.
Yeah but the theory completely revolves around the inhabitant of Project ARK, and for that the best thing that I could say is that she figured out how to do it with the elements but that is extremely shoddy
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You could make that argument for both Vill-V and Griseo, at least if what I know. I already said about Vill-V but if Griseo could paint into being some kind of alternative self from her surroundings (like ripping a page in half), then maybe she could as well.
1:00 p.m.
Of course, this is reading Before Sun and Moon literally. We have to think about what it might mean figuratively.
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Hyshadow
You could make that argument for both Vill-V and Griseo, at least if what I know. I already said about Vill-V but if Griseo could paint into being some kind of alternative self from her surroundings (like ripping a page in half), then maybe she could as well.
That's why I was thinking Griseo because she caused a bloody civil war with one of her paintings and if she could do that creating the fake sky and body doubles especially if using the elements should not be impossible (edited)
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yeah ok... Aponia flat out states the she wants to make a world where people don't gain knowledge and curb their innovation or what have you...
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Hyshadow
yeah ok... Aponia flat out states the she wants to make a world where people don't gain knowledge and curb their innovation or what have you...
Well inhales copium that doesn’t mean that the Primordial God has relation to her because the Primordial God helped humanity and that it is just a Sustainer of Heavenly Principles thing
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I think we still have 2 major questions to answer, and depending on the answer might reflect what exactly happens. The first, is when did the ARK arrive? Did it arrive with the Primordial One or was it the 2nd throne? Both are described as "came" probably as aliens of some kind. Also remember that the 2nd throne caused the destruction of the world. The 2nd big question is, which group is the SoHP (and celesta in general) really associated with? The Primordial One or the 2nd throne? I believe that it is more accepted that she's with the Primordial One, but that might not be the case.
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We have hints for the 1st. Before Sun and Moon mentions the word "ark" being open after the Primordial One came, so I believe that it's safe to assume they are indeed the same. The 2nd, is a bit hard to answer because the author of Before Sun and Moon makes it seem like the Primordial One was victorious against the 2nd throne but it isn't clear. Either way, the world had to have been recreated at this point and this is when knowledge became too dangerous.
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Hyshadow
I think we still have 2 major questions to answer, and depending on the answer might reflect what exactly happens. The first, is when did the ARK arrive? Did it arrive with the Primordial One or was it the 2nd throne? Both are described as "came" probably as aliens of some kind. Also remember that the 2nd throne caused the destruction of the world. The 2nd big question is, which group is the SoHP (and celesta in general) really associated with? The Primordial One or the 2nd throne? I believe that it is more accepted that she's with the Primordial One, but that might not be the case.
I believe that the Primordial God created the fake sky and Celestia to protect the world from the Sea of Quanta as it was stated that the world was in stasis if I remember correctly and that sounds like a dying world
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10:17 p.m.
oh fucj
10:17 p.m.
LMAO
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I finally finished reading second eruption Hoscry felt like it tied up a lot of loose ends from the Anti Entropy vn I wasn't expecting to see them mention og Welt so much my boy. Also finally got to see MANTIS mentioned for the first time outside the Elysian realm near the end. Now I can finally play chapter 8 cause I did 7 out of order
5:41 a.m.
I am a bit curious though was the girl Cocolia saved that was the wife to Alexy bronya's mom it looked exactly like her but just older. When I read Azure Waters though it seemed like she was an orphan super soldier.
5:41 a.m.
I wish I could read her chronicles in game but I'm too low level Mood_Keqing
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What determines who greets a person in Elysian Realm
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Hermit
What determines who greets a person in Elysian Realm
beating the trial
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Kiyan
beating the trial
I meant what determines the person who greets someone when they first visit ER in lore like how Elysia greeted Mei
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Elysia like Mei horn
2:17 p.m.
maybe that's why?
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probably will be more explained next patch
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or Elysia is the first one everytime
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considering it'll reveal mroe about elysia
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it's Elysian Realm for a reason
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Kiyan
or Elysia is the first one everytime
Raven never met Elysia till chapter 3
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who she met first?
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Kiyan
it's Elysian Realm for a reason
It is owned by either Eden or Mobius I don't remember
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Kiyan
who she met first?
I have no idea
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it's owned by aponia
2:20 p.m.
isn't it?
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Kyurei
isn't it?
It is owned by Mobius but Eden was the original owner of it and it used to be called the Golden Courtyard
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what was the whole thing about aponia and su combining their psychic powers to creating the realm?
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Kyurei
what was the whole thing about aponia and su combining their psychic powers to creating the realm?
I have never heard that
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that was from chapter 3
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What I do know is that the real Aponia essentially committed suicide by becoming apart of the Elysian Realm at least from what I remember of the leaks
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yeah she did. su had fainted halfway through the creation of the realm, but aponia had finished it on her own
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Kyurei
yeah she did. su had fainted halfway through the creation of the realm, but aponia had finished it on her own
Was it just the sims they created though
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the sims were created and updated by the actual flamechasers
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Ok let me rephrase that were they the ones that made it possible for the sims to exist
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i'm not sure. here's the conversation between her and su:
2:42 p.m.
2:42 p.m.
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also side related:
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Ok it seems that from a business stand point Mobius owns the realm but Aponia is the realm
2:45 p.m.
yeah something like that
2:47 p.m.
also a bit spoilers for the next patch
2:47 p.m.
but some of the sims were getting deleted. kevin and elysia were deleted
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Kyurei
but some of the sims were getting deleted. kevin and elysia were deleted
I know
2:48 p.m.
Sadly
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Wow the last message was March
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rinyan x hismit (left foot ᓀ‸ᓂ) 2022-07-11 4:46 p.m.
Swag I can ask my quesitons
4:46 p.m.
I was wondering what the difference between Yae Sakura and FC Sakura is - ik Kevin and Hua survived from PE but didn’t Sakura die? So then is the Yae Sakura not her ? But they both had a sister named Rin who died right? And Yae is the HoC or something ¿ And I’ don’t get what the whole Sakura samsara open world is about then or when that takes place in time line or her whole yuri thing with kallen
4:47 p.m.
Whole time I was doin that open world I had no idea what was going on there was no context given
4:47 p.m.
And then Sakura popped up in the sea of quanta main story again n I got even more confused
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rinyan x hismit (left foot ᓀ‸ᓂ)
And then Sakura popped up in the sea of quanta main story again n I got even more confused
This was PE Sakura and her death from Kevin's memory
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rinyan x hismit (left foot ᓀ‸ᓂ)
I was wondering what the difference between Yae Sakura and FC Sakura is - ik Kevin and Hua survived from PE but didn’t Sakura die? So then is the Yae Sakura not her ? But they both had a sister named Rin who died right? And Yae is the HoC or something ¿ And I’ don’t get what the whole Sakura samsara open world is about then or when that takes place in time line or her whole yuri thing with kallen
Yes they are different people same with the Rins, PE Rin was the holder of the HoC but when she was killed by the soldiers affected by Aponia's discipline which released the HoC
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rinyan x hismit (left foot ᓀ‸ᓂ) 2022-07-11 4:52 p.m.
who is Yae (Non FC) Sakura then and is she also the HoC which is that giant fox demon boss that we fight !
4:52 p.m.
?
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rinyan x hismit (left foot ᓀ‸ᓂ)
who is Yae (Non FC) Sakura then and is she also the HoC which is that giant fox demon boss that we fight !
CE Sakura is Kallens lover as with her being the fox that was a fake construction by the stigmata I think
4:56 p.m.
Also what actually happened with CE Sakura in the current era I have no idea
4:58 p.m.
I know the first part actually happened with Kallen stealing the HoC box, fleeing to Sakura's village, Sakura taking care of Kallen, and then Kallen somehow returning to Schicksal, her nearly getting hanged then escaping then dying by a large stab wound from a Honkai beast wen Otto set them loose to save Kallen
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rinyan x hismit (left foot ᓀ‸ᓂ) 2022-07-11 5:06 p.m.
Hmmmm ok ig that makes a bit more sense
5:07 p.m.
Is the HoC that we saw in ely the same thing
5:07 p.m.
I never understood HoV
5:07 p.m.
*HoC
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rinyan x hismit (left foot ᓀ‸ᓂ)
Is the HoC that we saw in ely the same thing
That’s actually unnecessarily complicated (edited)
5:08 p.m.
At least for me
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